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Could Ric Flair’s Record Fall, But Not To John Cena?

John Cena was so close to capturing his record-tying 16th WWE World Heavyweight Championship last year at SummerSlam, but uberfan Jon Stewart said he couldn’t allow Cena to break Flair’s record. So Cena continues to wait to claim what seems to be inevitable.

But what if he’s not the one to tie, or even break, Flair’s historic mark?

In case you haven’t been paying attention, WWE is laying it on fairly heavily, in my opinion, that new champion Triple H is a fourteen time champion now.

As in, one behind Cena, and just two away from his buddy Ric Flair.

What if Jon Stewart isn’t the only one who doesn’t want Cena to break the record? What if Flair or HHH feels similarly? Sounds far-fetched, but is it really? I mean, who wins the belt (as with every other outcome in WWE) is pre-determined. If someone wants Hunter to break the record, then Hunter will break the record.

And, folks, it isn’t that crazy a thought, once you think about it. Hunter just got title 14. Say he loses at ‘Mania to Roman Reigns, but doesn’t give up his pursuit. Perhaps at Money In The Bank, he defeats Reigns yet again, and there, just like that, he’s on reign number 15. Tied with Cena. One away from tying Flair. And if they choose to book it where neither man keeps the belt more than a couple months, before dropping it back to the other? Hunter could have the record by the end of 2016. Stranger things have happened.

Here’s why this would be best for business:

Hunter, in small doses as an active wrestler, even as a heel, seems to get more response than Cena does. Hunter has predominantly been a heel of late, but he can and has played the face role too. Mind you, as long as The Authority is present, he’s going to be a heel. But his passion for the business is as strong as ever, and he’s arguably in incredibly good shape. He’s not an implausible champion, all things considered. And I think there’s something to be said for someone OTHER than Cena chasing Ric Flair’s record. I think there are a lot of so-called old school fans, who grew up watching Flair win a lot of his 16 championships, who do not like John Cena. Or, if it’s not a dislike for Cena, they at least don’t want to see Flair’s record broken by him. I liken this to how fans felt about Bonds, McGwire and Sosa chasing (and breaking) Roger Maris’ home run record to a point. I don’t know if those same fans not wanting to see John Cena, 16 time world champion, would be OK with seeing Triple H, 16 time world champion, but I do think they’d be more receptive to it.

Here’s why this would be bad for business:

First, it would almost surely bury Reigns. Or at least, negatively impact him. There is something to be said for winning a championship and then holding onto it for a while, like Rollins was doing before his knee injury. Having a new champion every month or two? The changes could be exciting, if well-written and executed. But if it’s a constant of Hunter and Roman, and looks like a too-obvious attempt to get Hunter’s title reigns up? That could be very bad.

It cheapens the record, too. Because, no matter how well written things are, fans will notice that Hunter would have gone from a 13-time champion to a 16-time champion in the span of say, a year-all while not being a full-time active wrestler. And having not been one for a few years. So regardless of how in-shape Hunter is, he’s a part-time guy. Fans wouldn’t forget that.

Plus, there’s still the seemingly inevitable future reigns for Cena, where he’d break the record, whatever it would be by then. And of course, if the title was being passed between HHH and Roman a lot, Reigns would quickly be accruing a number of his own reigns (he’s already a two time champion, after all). It could and would become a vicious cycle.

In a perfect world? Leave it as-is. Flair holds the record. Cena sits at 15 now, and perhaps forever. And Hunter makes his 14th reign his last one.

But if someone decides that’s not best for business? 2016 could be an interesting year for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

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  • MikeLo #NewNation

    I always thought Triple H would be the one to do it

  • biz

    I highly doubt hunter ever gets another title reign after this one.

  • Si Nicholls

    HHH and Cena are both sides of the same burying coin, I wouldn’t want either one of them to break that record

  • Warren Roby

    If I had to choose between HHH and Cena, I would choose HHH just necause of the longevity of his career compared to Cena.
    Hunter being in the WWE for over 20 years now.
    But I am fairly sure Cena is going to get it done sooner rather then later

  • josh

    Just let Flair be the 16 time loser. No one needs to break that.

    • Joseph Lisnow

      i hope that record is NEVER broken.

      • josh

        I agree. It’s become a part of his persona. If someone were to break it then he will only be called a two time hall of famer.

        • MEH

          Along with the greatest of all time!

  • Mike

    Triple h won’t do it. this is his last reign I believe. As for cena. I would be very surprised if he didn’t equal it. I believe he will break the record.

  • bigfoot3169

    That’s one reason why I was bothered with Cena making it to 15 titles due to the nickel and diming of the championship. Roman is already a two time champ with maybe a reign. Idk what the magic number is in holding the strap, but if you become say, a 3 time champ between Wrestlemanias, then something is possibly wrong.

  • xXwindsofchangeXx

    Nothing against Flair, but the whole ’16x Champion’ thing is a lifetime achievement award, basically. Nearly all of those titles were won with NWA/WCW before the ‘merger’. Of course, that was also a different era because of everything not being quite so television dominated. Title reigns were longer and feuds were slow simmers that happened over a span of months as opposed to weeks. Even when you had a 3-match feud with the contested title changing hands once or twice in the middle, it would take place over a year or so.
    I guess it’s kind of like NFL passing records in a way. Nowadays you can’t really hit quarterbacks or receivers (as opposed to the 70s and 80s when some of the big pass records were originally set) so it shouldn’t be a surprise when the actual numbers get passed up. That doesn’t necessarily make the modern players doing the record breaking better players, though.

  • jcice13

    you’re making it out that the majority of wrestling fans would either A) notice or B) care if HHH were to tie or break the record in a year’s time..and that’s just not a reality, look at the crowd next time the audience is panned on TV, do they look like the types of people that give a crap or don’t they look like people there to be entertained? and look at the WWE’s network, shows geared to those same people, and total divas… so if HHH did in fact do this, they’d explain it, and the fans will buy it, oh they’ll boo him because he’s the heel but they’d buy it and eat it up with a spoon…and I’m not making light of those fans I spoke of they’re just not into it the same as the people here or other sites like this, we are the minority, and when someone in the minority espouses they’re concepts and makes it like that’s what the majority thinks, that’s just off the mark..pun intended

  • siddus

    Cena breaking the record would taste so sour because some of his title wins were ridiculous. Take, for example, when he became champ the night after losing it at Money in the Bank. He’s just lost it, and Rey Mysterio had already won a title tournament later that night.
    In short, both Cena’s and HHH’s high number of title reigns is down to politics rather then good and compelling wrestling/storytelling.

  • MEH

    I honestly couldn’t care less if the record was broken. We have to understand that this is a different era so obviously records will be broken just like the streak. When I look at Cena and HHH title victories/losses this is with a combination of the WWE title and the big gold WCW championship belt. This is the time when they’re were two championships to attain in one company. When Ric done it there was only one Wotld Champion which makes his reigns/defeats that more credible than HHH and Cena. I never forget one of HHH’s reigns he didn’t even win the title, Bischoff just put it on him so that marks him down in my view even from that.

    • Paul Long

      False… His 16 are from multiple companies…

      • MEH

        You’re correct my bad! However same point still stands did those companies have two world titles to obtain at the time?

  • dustin

    A lot of people thinks that triple h is where he is at because of marriage. With that being said I believe he is that good. One of the best heels of all time. If anyone is good enough to break Flair’s record it should be the game. He carried that company not as a face but as a heel. I beieve some people just don’t respect how good he was as a heel.

  • The Shockmaster

    I brought up this theory a few months ago. I think he could this year.

  • RomieRome81

    I could see them getting HHH tied with Cena then having a match with them to see who breaks the record. All I got say it doesn’t matter because it’s all ego vs ego money maker vs owner.

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